finalfantasyland | Community Feedback/Suggestions Part I

COMMUNITY FEEDBACK PART I
(ff_classchange & ff_land)

Here's how this is going to work:

- There's going to be two phases to this whole community feedback process. During the first phase, I'll have you fill out general polls asking you to rate various aspects of the comm and make suggestions. During the second phase, I will collect all reasonable/feasible ideas that were suggested and put them to a vote.

- This series of posts are part of the first phase. The polls here are to help give me a general idea of how the comm is going, but mostly they're here to to jog your memory on various aspects of the comm that might need improvement. You're encouraged to make suggestions in the comments as you think of them and to respond to other people's suggestions.

- Comments are unscreened. However, anonymous commenting is allowed in case you're uncomfortable voicing your opinions with your name attached.

- Not all suggestions will go on to be voted on in the second phase. Some suggestions will be rejected without vote and some suggestions will be accepted without vote, at mod discretion.

- The mods have already put some thought into community improvement. Here's a list of things we've come up with so far:

Suggestions that will be voted on in Phase 2:

[GENERAL] Add Vagrant Story to the list of accepted FF games
[GENERAL] Add original Kingdom Hearts characters (e.g. Sora, Terra, Organization XIII, etc.) to the list of accepted FF games
[GENERAL] Use (different) alliances again in Game 2, or switch to individual teams

Suggestions that will be implemented without vote:

[GENERAL] Track & reward member participation with a fanworks incentive system
[FANWORKS] Allow people to set up "shops" as part of the above
[FANWORKS] Rework the moogle_workshop fanart scale
[SORTING] Remove the leader/supporter dichotomy from the app as it's made redundant by question 4

If you have concerns that would be fixed by any of the above, you do not have to mention them here.

- All suggestions (here and in the comments) are open to debate, so if you want to make an argument for or against an idea, you are encouraged to do so.

Onto the polls!

[Poll #1737741]

Polls/suggestion box will be open until Saturday May 21
If you need to change your vote, click on the "Poll #______" link at the top of the poll, then [ Fill out Poll ], then change your answers and resubmit.

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But, I dunno. If the 5th and 6th team are close, giving your points to the 6th might be really unfair to the 5th (or even the 4th)...

Edit: Okay, everyone else pointed that out too, sorry. XD;;

But another thought is -- I think I'd actually feel a little insulted about getting points donations. On the one hand, they'd be helpful, but on the other hand, it'd be like... y'know. I wanna earn my place, not just accept charity.

Edited 2011-05-06 03:43 (UTC)

This reply should go to everyone who replied to my comment but I'm too lazy to copypaste:

I'm not sure I see how it's unfair to 4th and 5th place... I would only be giving to the sixth place team so at best I would only be helping them catch up to 5th place. If they ever surpassed 5th place, I would then start giving points to the old 5th place, because they're now 6th... And my antics at the bottom shouldn't really affect the race at the top unless 1st and 6th place are close, in which case giving my points to a team wouldn't be fair, so I wouldn't.

Plus, I can't participate in UA. The only points I get are from stamping, minigames, and any fanworks I do (which isn't a lot).

Did I explain badly? I didn't think this would be met so negatively because I've participated in communities that had this policy, and there were only three teams. When my team was third and the mods gave any points they got to my team, I didn't feel insulted. It was nice having a bit of a boost, especially because our team was consistently the smallest.

As I mentioned to Yin, I just want to be able to participate and not feel like I'm wasting people's time. *sob*

*patpat* ;_;

I dunno. I guess I just don't like the idea...

If I were in 5th and someone caught up because they got extra points, I'd be kinda annoyed.

Plus, if I were in 6th and caught up because I got bonus points, it'd feel like less of an accomplishment, I guess you could say? Like, oh, we only caught up now because Tako helped, not because we did anything. I guess it kinda cheapens victories a little bit, for me...

But but then I'd be helping the team that just got caught up with so they can beat the 6th place team again.

And I mean, of course getting 5th place isn't an accomplishment if you can't keep it without my help. But that's going to be the same whether I help or not...

I guess so. XD;; But what if it was something like how the Black Mages were this game. I mean, they weren't in 6th, but they were close to it at the start, and now they're going to beat my Thiefies. *waaails*

Firstly, it's a much bigger accomplishment because they managed that.

Secondly, I think I'd feel a lot more bitter about it if they had gotten help, even if it was near the start. There would always be the feeling of "Mrrr we woulda beaten them if not for that."

Yeah I see what you mean. That's where I'd take the point difference between 1st and 6th place into account. If it's less than, say, 2000, it's too early in the game for me to be giving my points to anyone, you know?

*nods*

*ponders*

You could also have a thing where teams (team mods, essentially?) can ask for the points almost like a scholarship? In which case it wouldn't have to be the last team, but maybe like, "Our most active member just quit and half of our participants aren't around. We need something to stay in the game." That kind of thing, and then it'd be your decision whether or not to give them the points?

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